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 Post subject: Nos dual plate kit jetting questions
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:59 am 
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Hi folks new to the forum but found the site in my search for questions on nos,I have purchased a used dual plate kit and am installing it on my tunnel ram for just that little extra.the kit did not come with any instructions on jetting and most every thing I find online deals with single plate systems.
What jets would be sugested for a 100hp shot with this system,am I taking a required jet size for a single plate system and splitting those numbers in half and running those half sizes in the dual plate system.also all the plumbing lines is there any seal I should be running on the threads, probably not teflon tape in case some by accident gets into the lines .

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 Post subject: Re: Nos dual plate kit jetting questions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:58 pm 
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Okay with a little more research I find some recommend a 40 44 jet for a dual shot 50 hp,sound about right ??


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:18 pm 
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Hi 64ford and welcome to my forum.

The reason you haven't had a response and are also unlikely to get one, is that ALL the people on this forum use OUR WON nitrous systems and they use ENTIRELY DIFFERENT jets and numbering system, so they have no expereince of a US NOS brand kit to be able to help you.
Now if you were to upgrade to one of our systems, you'd be flooded with advice from all quarters, so the best advice I can give you under the circumstances, is to upgrade to WON ASAP.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:11 pm 
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Hi 64ford and welcome to my forum.

The reason you haven't had a response and are also unlikely to get one, is that ALL the people on this forum use OURWON nitrous systems and they use ENTIRELY DIFFERENT jets and numbering system, so they have no expereince of a US NOS brand kit to be able to help you.
Now if you were to upgrade to one of our systems, you'd be flooded with advice from all quarters, so the best advice I can give you under the circumstances, is to upgrade to WON ASAP.



So ok the forum header states even stupid questions allowed,so lets call my question stupid.the only responce I get is from the owner of this forum called Noswizard and the only advice I get is to buy his system.No thankyou and please remove my account.
Seems to me the best way to deal with questions not related to your product is show them how smart you really are and help them along,get them started ,let them see how much fun it all is and let them realize the benifit of switching to your system in the end,but your advice to me is buy my system and we can talk.
maybe call the forum,( Advice Forum For My Nos Kits...)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:10 pm 
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So if the Wizard was to give you advice on a system that is not of his design, and is by design going to possibly destroy your engine, who are you going to blame/moan about?

I'm sure he is more then capable, and knowledgeable, to be able to offer you advice, and he has given you probably the best advice you'll need, sell on the US kit and buy a far, far superior WON setup :)

Why would you settle for second best?

Nitrous is a great way to improve the performance of your engine, but it needs to be correctly controlled and administered to the engine. The WON products are all purposely designed with this is mind, and each component is uniquely designed for the job in hand. The same cannot be said for some of the parts supplied in US kits.

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hi 64 ford
we are a friendly bunch here honest and will always help but i dont think we would guess at advise which is why you seem to be not getting a straight answer,did you try american nitrous furoms and were they any help... ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:34 pm 
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I've also been considering a suitable and polite response to 64ford.
As I said to another guy only today, this is primarily for WON products, so it would be unwise of us to make a judgement on another product that we have no experience of.

I have a BMW, so I would NOT go to a Subaru forum for advise.
Does the US Holley NOS product have its own forum, to which we could refer others to?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:24 pm 
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64ford wrote:
So ok the forum header states even stupid questions allowed, so lets call my question stupid.
Your 'question' wasn't 'stupid' it was INAPPROPRIATE HERE!!!!

the only responce I get is from the owner of this forum called Noswizard and the only advice I get is to buy his system.No thankyou and please remove my account.
LOL - YOUR LOSS FOOL - NOT MINE!!!!
I predict you will suffer a solenoid failure which has a high probability of destroying your engine and/or your entire car with that JUNK kit before very long.

You'd better hope you wise up before your car ends up like one of these, ALL of which were using US brand nitrous kits LIKE YOURS and then you expect me to HELP YOU do this to your car;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDIngnxr ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX1-LgDA1Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLPdTysL_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6tJU8Hq_Is


This guy hadn't even started the run and had ONLY JUST turned the bottle on;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kht95C3vO4

And to prove it's not just all out race cars that suffer such problems, here's some street cars;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qhnItz8 ... ature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-JXs0P ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cPuJza_Aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waS5b4jBU30

You may be lucky like this guy - at least he had a couple of runs before it went BANG and it ONLY wrecked his engine;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYf5OIQG8XA

I invite you to find a SINGLE example of one of my systems causing ANYTHING like any of these examples, because you won't be able to.

I welcomed you to MY forum and offered you THE BEST advice you could have possibly asked for. Using a US brand nitrous kit is a HIGH RISK practice as these FEW examples prove), therefore offering you advice to upgrade the INFERIOR components you currently have, to FAR SUPERIOR WON alternatives (that are PROVEN TO BE 100% RELIABLE), was the BEST possible advice I could have given you.

If you're not smart enough to;
1) Investigate the risks associated with using INFERIOR US kits
2) Investigate the SUPERIORITY of our products
3) Realise you were given a friendly welcome
4) Appreciate you were given the best possible advice
then you're NOT smart enough to participate on my forum, so I'll gladly remove your account.


Seems to me the best way to deal with questions not related to your product is show them how smart you really are
After 35 YEARS of expereince and having invented and manufactured THE MOST ADVANCED nitrous system on the planet, I DO NOT need to show ANYONE "how smart" I am, least of all someone who was dumb enough to buy a US kit.

and help them along,get them started ,let them see how much fun it all is and let them realize the benifit of switching to your system in the end,but your advice to me is buy my system and we can talk.
Yes it would have been VERY GOOD OF ME to help you destroy your engine and/or your car, plus I'm sure you'd find it GREAT FUN watching your pride and joy go up in flames in front of you.

maybe call the forum,( Advice Forum For My Nos Kits...)
I think I can manage without any advice from someone who thinks a US kit is a wise purchase. :omgrofl: :omgrofl:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:25 pm 
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icurus wrote:
So if the Wizard was to give you advice on a system that is not of his design, and is by design going to possibly destroy your engine, who are you going to blame/moan about?

I'm sure he is more then capable, and knowledgeable, to be able to offer you advice, and he has given you probably the best advice you'll need, sell on the US kit and buy a far, far superior WON setup :)

Why would you settle for second best?

Nitrous is a great way to improve the performance of your engine, but it needs to be correctly controlled and administered to the engine. The WON products are all purposely designed with this is mind, and each component is uniquely designed for the job in hand. The same cannot be said for some of the parts supplied in US kits.

EXACTLY RIGHT ON ALL COUNTS!!! :yes:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:30 pm 
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hi 64 ford
we are a friendly bunch here honest and will always help but i dont think we would guess at advise which is why you seem to be not getting a straight answer,did you try american nitrous furoms and were they any help... ;)

:omgrofl: There's plenty of those and they're all extremely eager to help another fool destroy their engine/car.

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my god trev ive only watched the first vid ...that fire was only going to be put out when it had nothing left to burn......... :shock:

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BMW840 wrote:
I've also been considering a suitable and polite response to 64ford.
As I said to another guy only today, this is primarily for WON products, so it would be unwise of us to make a judgement on another product that we have no experience of.

I have a BMW, so I would NOT go to a Subaru forum for advise.
EXACTLY RIGHT non both the above accounts.

Does the US Holley NOS product have its own forum, to which we could refer others to?
LOL - You are joking aren't you Richard???? - LOL

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:51 pm 
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What I don't understand is how the US nitrous companies get away with selling such JUNK, when there's SO MANY examples of how bad they are and the extreme destruction they cause!!!!

IF JUST ONE of my customers ever suffered anything close to the destruction US kits cause, as a consequence of an inadequately designed component or component failure, I'D SHUT DOWN MY BUSINESS, because I couldn't stand the responsibility of causing that much trouble and expense to ONE person, never mind the risk of another.

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trev out of interest can that happen on a poorly designed diesel kit .....

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LUCKILY for all diesel owners that have been unwise enough to buy a US kit, there's NO RISK of any such problems as there are on petrol vehicles.
Not even the TERRIBLY BAD US nitrous kits can damage a diesel - THANKFULLY for all diesel owners.

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Thanks trev...i love my quick diesel ;)

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My life would have been so much easier if ALL engines were diesels and if they could all have their fuel flow increased electronically. Designing systems to avoid the pitfalls that petrol engines are at risk of has been a rather strenuous life style. :(

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i do believe im a lucky bunny with my set up, apart from clutch upgrade its been faultless :mrgreen: so much so if i could change my car for a more powerful one i really think i would buy another diesel simply because of the nitrous upgrade... ;)

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I sent 64ford and email inviting him to read the posts since his last contribution and to make a final response, before I deleted his membership but it seems he's either too embarrassed to do so or too stupid to believe the advice he was given.

Whatever the case I was recently sent the following video link, which shows not only a number of even more nitrous backfire but also numerous examples of some of the other potential hazards of using US brand kits.
Ignoring the cars that are obviously using turbo's there's a high probability, that ALL the other 'episodes' in the clip were caused by the BRUTAL HIT (That NX BRAG ABOUT), that ALL US kits deliver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxszV_w ... re=related

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have these fellas never heard of going in a straight line ;) i would love to pop a wheelie just once going to tescos tho trev :mrgreen:

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